Comments on: The Costs Of Bipartisanship http://www.crawfordharris.com/the-costs-of-bipartisanship/ From the Land Where the Sun Shines Bright and the Moonshine's Delicious Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:42:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Crawford http://www.crawfordharris.com/the-costs-of-bipartisanship/comment-page-1/#comment-1927 Crawford Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:25:32 +0000 http://www.crawfordharris.com/?p=274#comment-1927 Thanks, and bring a few along with you. Thanks, and bring a few along with you.

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]]> By: Crawford http://www.crawfordharris.com/the-costs-of-bipartisanship/comment-page-1/#comment-332 Crawford Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:34:30 +0000 http://www.crawfordharris.com/?p=274#comment-332 I'm not an expert on the costs related to pandemics. All of us have had our minds blown by the talk of billions and trillions. Millions now seems small change. I was accepting that it was put in the bill because some bean counter in the appropriate agency had convinced someone that it was necessary. In light of the shutting down of cities, schools, transportation, et al. in a pandemic, it needs to be addressed with countervailing, stimulative measures. For stimulus purposes additional funding would be required, not a luxury. The problem concerning the 60 votes is that until Newt and his coven the rule was used with restraint and the filibuster was usually the work of an individual senator. It has grown as a partisan weapon so that now, except for certain budget bills, it comes into play for every bill. I find these rules unconscionable in a democratic body. Why try to win elections if the losers are given the right to kill everything they don't like or just to frustrate the other party? Should I post your earlier comment on gridlock? I’m not an expert on the costs related to pandemics. All of us have had our minds blown by the talk of billions and trillions. Millions now seems small change. I was accepting that it was put in the bill because some bean counter in the appropriate agency had convinced someone that it was necessary. In light of the shutting down of cities, schools, transportation, et al. in a pandemic, it needs to be addressed with countervailing, stimulative measures. For stimulus purposes additional funding would be required, not a luxury.

The problem concerning the 60 votes is that until Newt and his coven the rule was used with restraint and the filibuster was usually the work of an individual senator. It has grown as a partisan weapon so that now, except for certain budget bills, it comes into play for every bill.

I find these rules unconscionable in a democratic body. Why try to win elections if the losers are given the right to kill everything they don’t like or just to frustrate the other party? Should I post your earlier comment on gridlock?

]]> By: Ed http://www.crawfordharris.com/the-costs-of-bipartisanship/comment-page-1/#comment-331 Ed Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:10:12 +0000 http://www.crawfordharris.com/?p=274#comment-331 No, Crawford, I did not say being prepared for a possible pandemic was a luxury. Spending $780 million more over and above what is already being spent could be seen as a luxury. Also the Democrats need to quit whining. the Senate has operated most of the time without either party having 60 assured votes. The majority party seemed to get things done without having filibuster proof control. No, Crawford, I did not say being prepared for a possible pandemic was a luxury. Spending $780 million more over and above what is already being spent could be seen as a luxury.

Also the Democrats need to quit whining. the Senate has operated most of the time without either party having 60 assured votes. The majority party seemed to get things done without having filibuster proof control.

]]> By: Crawford http://www.crawfordharris.com/the-costs-of-bipartisanship/comment-page-1/#comment-330 Crawford Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:46:41 +0000 http://www.crawfordharris.com/?p=274#comment-330 Come on now, Ed. The resources to deal with a pandemic are a luxury? Please explain. Exercising fiscal responsibility should be done responsibly. Surely there are other items that could have been cut instead, perhaps even a project or two in her state. Because of the anti-democratic filibuster Obama needed 60 votes. He had to allow Collins and Specter to appear to be fiscally responsible by cutting something. He should have suggested alternatives. Maybe he did and one or both wouldn't budge. We don't know. I'm certain they didn't think a pandemic to be on the immediate horizon or, more likely, didn't think of it in terms of affecting the stimulus. That illustrates the small thinking that pervades Capitol Hill, particularly. True bipartisanship doesn't play the blame game and loyalty is rarely an issue in Washington. Without 60 votes the actual control is in the hands of the minority. Come on now, Ed. The resources to deal with a pandemic are a luxury? Please explain. Exercising fiscal responsibility should be done responsibly. Surely there are other items that could have been cut instead, perhaps even a project or two in her state.

Because of the anti-democratic filibuster Obama needed 60 votes. He had to allow Collins and Specter to appear to be fiscally responsible by cutting something. He should have suggested alternatives. Maybe he did and one or both wouldn’t budge. We don’t know.

I’m certain they didn’t think a pandemic to be on the immediate horizon or, more likely, didn’t think of it in terms of affecting the stimulus. That illustrates the small thinking that pervades Capitol Hill, particularly.

True bipartisanship doesn’t play the blame game and loyalty is rarely an issue in Washington. Without 60 votes the actual control is in the hands of the minority.

]]> By: Ed http://www.crawfordharris.com/the-costs-of-bipartisanship/comment-page-1/#comment-329 Ed Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:48:23 +0000 http://www.crawfordharris.com/?p=274#comment-329 Sorry, but this is an unfair criticism. First of all $780 million in case there is a pandemic is a luxury item, not a necessity. Secondly, Collins was attempting to exercise a modicum of fiscal responsibility, not picking a fight with Obama. And, thirdly, the Democrats control Congress. If pandemic control was so obviously necessary, they should have kept it in. Blame the controlling party, not the loyal opposition. Sorry, but this is an unfair criticism. First of all $780 million in case there is a pandemic is a luxury item, not a necessity. Secondly, Collins was attempting to exercise a modicum of fiscal responsibility, not picking a fight with Obama. And, thirdly, the Democrats control Congress. If pandemic control was so obviously necessary, they should have kept it in. Blame the controlling party, not the loyal opposition.

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